Three-hour workshops, with a week or more of down time between sessions, are far more effective than an equivalent number of consecutive hours spent on intensive training. While our availability during office hours complicates the comparison somewhat, it is nonetheless worth highlighting that we covered easily as much material in fifteen total classroom hours at CJS as we did typically in thirty to forty total hours during the weeklong boot camp events we have facilitated in the past. While we do not have evaluation data from those events to compare with our initial baseline from our cumulative workshop series at CJS, our sense is that the latterset of participants showed greater competency.